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Jazzmarazz says:

In this case, He publically uploaded both the compiled code and source code, schematics and board files.
My argument is that the community has two options. One: to do a small community-only group printing of the board at the cost plus labor or two: someone can continue to sell them for hundreds of dollars on ebay. Option three is to continue to sit on our hands and justify Little's behavior. I will no longer sympathize with the next person who catches his own tail in his teeth and acts surprised. Time bears repeating and this is not the first reiteration.

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Jazzmarazz says:

I didn't want to say "rom" but yeah, the rom too. He never explicitly stated that others could use it, but I think it goes without saying just as much as his orders went without filling.

The honest reason I got rid of my own copy was because I was underwhelmed, but we're still a little ways off from having a second option available.

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stargazer says:

Let me get this straight: Someone based in Denver is producing these and selling them on ebay. DSC is suspected, but not confirmed. He has not defended himself against the allegations. At the same time, yogi discovered that the full source for basically everything was posted online as part of littlescale's master's thesis, so now presumably anyone could make one of these with little to no effort involved.

Excuse me while I go throw up. This is disgusting.

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yogi says:
stargazer wrote:

Let me get this straight: Someone based in Denver is producing these and selling them on ebay. DSC is suspected, but not confirmed. He has not defended himself against the allegations. At the same time, yogi discovered that the full source for basically everything was posted online as part of littlescale's master's thesis, so now presumably anyone could make one of these with little to no effort involved.

Excuse me while I go throw up. This is disgusting.

yes, thats the short story. The seller in Denver may be legit, who know. It is possibly he had bought 10+ from the first run. (unlikely but...)
The elements to re-create the interface are on the web 'for all to see'.I for one view the situation as a twist on the fair use of ROM dumps by a cart owner, only that the pre ordered cart/hardware was never delivered.
The subject of a community project would be a banned topic, but if your soldering iron kung-fu is strong there's nothing to stop you.
Perhaps a general purpose Teensy carrier board with a midi socket; useful for all manner of projects? Or is this banned, I don't know.
yogi

PS OT @ jazzmarazz Thanks for the great tut over at EMUParadise. Just found it today looking for Gen cart mods, very helpful.

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rot says:

Oh god, this thread is just tragic. This whole minefield is why non-open software/hardware sucks.

To be honest if I had paid for the interface and not received it for this long, I would just make the damn thing myself its pretty simple, and the only barrier up until now has been the availability of the genesis 'firmware'. (ie, the rom). The hardware side is basically just an arduino connected to the joystick port, guides for which are already available for the sms i think, on littlescales blog.

I never ordered one when they were on sale so I would feel kinda weird just building it, knowing that little-scale explicitly never intended for it to be diy/open source. Aside from this bullshit incident he's contributed a lot to the chiptune community. I really wouldn't wanna 'rip him off' or like step on anyone's toes, cause he seems like a cool guy who maybe just didn't organise his business well or something.

I think the best thing that would happen now is if little-scale just did a lsdj-style license where he asks for a donation in return for all the compiled code, and leaves it to the user to get it onto the console. Or just opens up the source properly like trash80 did with arduinoboy?

Also until he at least says his opinion on people dl-ing the firmware and making it themselves (let alone an apology/explanation) i guess this project is abandonware, no?

Fuck it, maybe someone should just 'reverse engineer' and open-source version of the project... And then at least the peeps that ordered one could discuss and build it themselves without being made to feel like a pirate.

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cyberic says:
rot wrote:

Or just opens up the source properly like trash80 did with arduinoboy?

It would be the best thing, since there are still bugs in the firmware, especially with using it with FMDrive.

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Jazzmarazz says:
yogi wrote:

PS OT @ jazzmarazz Thanks for the great tut over at EMUParadise. Just found it today looking for Gen cart mods, very helpful.

Glad you found it helpful! Feel free to post there asking me any questions you might have, though I'm sure you're more than capable. Welcome to EP.


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yogi says:
Jazzmarazz wrote:
yogi wrote:

PS OT @ jazzmarazz Thanks for the great tut over at EMUParadise. Just found it today looking for Gen cart mods, very helpful.

Glad you found it helpful! Feel free to post there asking me any questions you might have, though I'm sure you're more than capable. Welcome to EP.

Talk to you there, got a minor question or two.
yogi

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DUNGEONMASTER says:

Maybe soon we can start talking technique

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freezedream says:

I've got a queastion for anyone using a GenMDM with a standalone MIDI keyboard (i.e without using a computer).

Do you get polyphony when you play? Is there a MIDI CC to turn on/off polyphony?

Thanks!

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yogi says:
freezedream wrote:

I've got a queastion for anyone using a GenMDM with a standalone MIDI keyboard (i.e without using a computer).

Do you get polyphony when you play? Is there a MIDI CC to turn on/off polyphony?

Thanks!

I'm not 100%, but I don't think the Teensey code does poly on one channel like say the Midibox SID synth engine. Think it's pretty much one channel per voice, so for a cord it would have to be sequenced on 3 or 4 channels all set to the same patch.
Yogi


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stress_tn says:

I have teensy and can make connector, but what about cartridge? Can anybody tel how to get this cartidge, or can I get flash cartridge for sega and load rom (is it rom anythere)? Sorry for stupid question, 84 pages cant be readed quickly.

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herr_prof says:

no one has released the rom.

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stress_tn says:
herr_prof wrote:

no one has released the rom.

Nobody can buy and make it yourself. Thanks Kotlinski for his modesty)

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Arricat says:

Looks like it's time to invest in a Yamaha FB-01..
Anyone else used similar Yamaha's FM units? There's a few I'd like to try.

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e.s.c. says:

fwiw, i got rid of my mdm to replace it with an fb01. i love it, just a matter of getting used to the patch editing software

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